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Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Shotglass :his point is that if there was anything worth stopping the game for there (and there clearly wasnt) it would have been a penatly kick for the us and not a freekick for slovenia
and hes correct

But he's not at the same time (if you follow what I mean)

It was six of one, half a dozen of the other, it could be just as easily a penalty as it was a freekick, just so happened that the ref saw it in favour of Slovenia.


RE: England V Alegeria

How does Heskey get a game? Genuinely, I would be pissed off if he played for Scotland. Poor game from England, no spark and drive, needed a left sided midfielder......shame he left Ashely Young back home.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :

No offence, but if we where take a look at a corner defended by the USA, we would see the same thing. Every team does it, it's how you defend by getting 'touchtight'

It's six of one, half dozen of the other. The number 15 for the USA is fouling just as much as the one who as got his arms wrapped around the player.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from franky500 :
Hide in Mackie's Luggage!

Not at the expence of my Irn-Bru, however if he where to offer his own suitcase then I'm sure the weeman can lug it around the place...
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from franky500 :Im planning on booking my tickets this friday.

Will see if i can get something to arrive the same sort of time (saves somebody a trip..)

Makes sense, for the record myself and the little brother arrive in Abergavveny at 17:01 and we're cool to wait if it saves someone making the trip out.

@ Jason - Will get the money transferred tonight for both myself and Keith.



This time...I bringing some sun cream.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Boris Lozac :vuvs

Genuine laughs there....might have bust a rib doing so though. (worth it)
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from DevilDare :Well thats the thing, its arguable that it wasnt a goal scoring opportunity. Check the replay, Suarez didnt exactly had the ball under full control before Khenu took him down.

Suarez flicked the ball past the keeper who then brought him down....while it could be argued that the player was not getting the ball after that, we can't be sure as the keeper brought him down.

Since the last control of the ball was with Suarez and if he made it past the keeper without getting hit, then he had a reasonable goalscoring opportunity which was denied.

I understand where you're coming from DD, and to a certain extent I agree. To the fans point of view that seems harsh, however the laws of the game are such that there can be no grey area for the refs. If these factors happened then the only choice left for the ref is to send the offending player off, common sense referring is to inconsistent to be used so now FIFA are removing any “judgement calls” out of the hands of the refs and trying to make the rules as black and white as possible....the only problem is that football is never that easy.
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Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Kalev EST :Isn't getting past the last man a goalscoring chance then?

Most the time yes, but not always.

Say the striker is running away from the goal out of the box (assume then that the striker is Scottish) and towards the corner flag, if the last man back was to bring him down then under the lawas of the game it's a yellow card and not a red, he's not in a goal scoring postion.

Likewise if a defender was to foul a player at the edge of the box as the striker was winding up to take a shot, even with the keeper and another defender in there it should be a red card for the tackling player.

It's one of these myths that have come up with fans automatical assuming that the last man means an instant red card...not always the case.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Kalev EST :No way. Khenu was the last player. It's an automatic red card.

doesn't matter if he's last man, only if it a goalscoring chance was denied
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from DevilDare :Still, had the player not dived and acted as if he was shot in the face, I think Khenu would of gotten away with just a yellow.

The amount of diving I have seen so far in this World Cup is really, really sad...

The keeper would still have been sent off, stopping a goalscoring chance is a red card offence regardless of whether the player tripped had done a full twist while going down.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from DevilDare :
E - Wow. What a crap decision by the ref. Khenu barely touched him... That was a overblown dive from the Uruguaynian. Appauling IMO.

Not even close to the ball, made contact (doesn't matter how little, contact was made) with the man and stop a goal scoring chance.

All these add up to a penalty and an early bath for the offending player.
Mackie The Staggie
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Why was the keeper standing 2 yards off his line and away from his front post.

Goalkeeping 101 - cover your posts.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from ferret :Pick-ups will be the same as last year i.e. YES we can pick you up at the station

Will need to know soon where everyone is arriving from (what station) and what time so we can organise the drivers.

Booked my train tickets about a week ago for myself and the weeman, arriving in Abergavenny just after 5pm.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Jertje :Note: this is aimed at noone in particular

This whole vuvuzela issue is one big line under the intolerance and incomprehension of people toward other cultures and habits. "it does nothing for the atmosphere, it's just noise" and "they should ban them from the tournament!" - I hear those lines every day and ask myself if the people saying actually realise that every game of football in that country is supported by an army of vuvuzelas? It's not as if the African supportors had a conference meeting before the world-cup and decided "yes, let's get these big horns and blow on them for 90 minutes to piss everybody off, just for the world-cup!"

This is how these people enjoy football, and to me they seem to be a bunch of people that enjoy the hell out of the game, because you can host a world-cup wherever you want in Europe but you will never see dancing, celebrating people outside of their cars on jammed highways and in every street of damn near every city.

Take the moment to widen your perspective of what is atmosphere-enhancing. I know that's scary and different to just slamming down the cold hard fist of imperialism, but if a whole country gets riled up to the sound of a couple of thousand vuvuzelas there's nothing wrong with the fact that they want to keep that part of their way of enjoying football alive in their tournament.

Besides, I'd rather sit next to a bunch of cheerfully dancing people with genuine joy for the game of football (it still exists!) and a vuvuzela in their hands than a drunken lot shouting racist slurs and calling the referee a cock every 2 minutes, because that's the reality of our enjoyment of football these days.

Just open up a little bit, and don't be so eager to call a ban on something because it's different to what you're used to.

RANT OVER!

Considering I've had first hand of hearing those bloody horns at a match, I think I'm entitled to complain about them.

There was a group of kids who bought them on Ebay a while back in time for our cup replay with Hibs, and although on that moment they where ok then, it was only used on few occasions and the whole crowd (6,000 odd in a small stadium) where noisy enough to drown them out.

However there was on guy who thought that these would be good to constantly blow them throughout an entire midweek league game when there was less than 1000 at the game. The constant buzzing only yards away from where I stood was beyond a joke.

So I'm not looking to ban them because their different, or because it's not done on the European content (or for any other reason you like to throw at me) it's because I have suffered at the hands of the vuvu, and experienced in a game environment.

BTW for those who dislike the vuvu's more than the Scots dislike Jimmy Hill, the bbc are looking to have the red button audio minus the vuvu's, alternatively listen to the game on the Radio 5 live.
Mackie The Staggie
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1-1...

keeper at fault, a shocker.
Mackie The Staggie
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Not in the game plan for Italy....whoops.

piss poor marking though.
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :
However I can see the Germans winning here by about 3 or 4 clear goals here.

German domination, never looked out of control and in danger of losing a goal, potential to go far but will be tougher oppostion to face.

ITV comentators useless as always.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from The Moose :The ref is a twat. That was never a red card...hardly worth a yellow even. Unreal.

It was never a red, but worth a yellow under the law of the game. Stupid challange though from Cahill, no need to lunde in
Mackie The Staggie
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The only way I can see the Germans conceeding is through a set piece by the Aussies. German employ zonal marking and if one person switches off, then there is a very good chance to conceding a goal,espicially with Tim Chaill in the other side.

However I can see the Germans winning here by about 3 or 4 clear goals here.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from AstroBoy :Pretty sure both are acceptable depending on the origin of the speaker. Neither one is wrong or right.

Nope, your wrong, soccer is never acceptable regardless of the orgin of the speaker. It would be like describing a Ferrari as a LADA becuase they happen to both have 4 wheels.

The sport is governed by FIFA, which stands for "Fédération Internationale de Football Association", I've highlighted the key word there.

This is the FIFA world cup, not the sodding FISA world cup, if your watching the FISA world cup then your watching rowing.


In other news, I really hope this happens those bloody horns detract from the game, normally I mute it due to the commentators talking pish, but now I'm muting it straight away due to those horns.
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Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from AstroBoy :Only a couple of hours until Germany get schooled in how to play Soccer
Who else is pumped?!?!?!?

It's Football you idiot...for that I'm backing the Germans.
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Intrepid :USA are already a top side having beaten Spain and nearly beating Brazil in the Confederations Cup. England should be happy with a draw

Why are people putting weight behind the Confederations Cup, it's like saying a certain driver is better than another because they beat them at Mario Karts...

Quote from Intrepid :A save is a save is a save ... until you fumble a simple shot. That lucky save combined with a cock-up clearly demonstrates this lad atm is out of his depth.

Never played football have you....?
Mackie The Staggie
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Well who will the media blame. Is it...

A) Robert Green, who made one mistake which unfortunately lead to a goal.

or

B) Heskey, who when 1 on 1 with Howard thought that the best way to get the ball past him, was to hit it STRAIGHT AT HIM!!!


Still, funny when you remember Clive said after Gerrard scored said "this will be fun", well Clive it was, but not for the reason you wanted.
Mackie The Staggie
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USA have had more of the ball in the first half than England, however when England get forward the look a bit more clinical than USA.

RE: Robert Green. This is way a keeper can't make a mistake. 1 mistake will 9 times out of 10 result in conceding a goal...a midfield player can get away with making countless mistakes without to much damage.

The big qustion should be why has the English defence constantly stood off the USA players in the final 1/3?????
Mackie The Staggie
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Quote from Jertje :I recently watched Airplane! with my lady, as she had never seen it before. The most awkward 90 minutes of my life... she didn't laugh once! I was shocked, and worried that it was my humor that was broken instead of hers, tell me it isn't so!

Tbh if it was me....we would be having "That Talk" and she would have to have a lot going on for the relationship to keep going.
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